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PostSubject: Help with Secret Cave - Helicopter not turning up   Fri 10 Nov 2017 - 17:48

Does anyone know the infoportion to trigger the appearance of the helicopter bearing Panther?

I've done this mission several times - gone to RT, found the cave, gone to see Fang in the Fiery Cave, brought him to the Secret Cave and spoken to Fly - but the helicopter is not appearing. All the dialogue between MO and Fang seems okay, but no chopper!

I seem to recall it being the case at one point that once the cave had been located, not to do any quicksaves or this would prevent the helicopter turning up. Done the mission 4 times today from the map change autosave, but no joy.
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PostSubject: Re: Help with Secret Cave - Helicopter not turning up   Fri 10 Nov 2017 - 19:59

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Does anyone know the infoportion to trigger the appearance of the helicopter bearing Panther?

I've done this mission several times - gone to RT, found the cave, gone to see Fang in the Fiery Cave, brought him to the Secret Cave and spoken to Fly - but the helicopter is not appearing. All the dialogue between MO and Fang seems okay, but no chopper!

I seem to recall it being the case at one point that once the cave had been located, not to do any quicksaves or this would prevent the helicopter turning up. Done the mission 4 times today from the map change autosave, but no joy.

I am not aware of a save/load problem here. I occasionally have to quicksave/quickload to get Fang moving if he gets stuck. Admittedly this is before actually reaching the cave.

Sorry, I can't find an info portion to spawn the helicopter - which either means I don't know what to look for, or - more likely - the helicopter's arrival is hard-coded into the game.

The dialogue after talking to Fly in the cave is:
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How much of this do you get?
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PostSubject: Re: Help with Secret Cave - Helicopter not turning up   Fri 10 Nov 2017 - 20:30

Hi pchester - thanks for your reply

The dialogue after talking to Fly in the cave is:
dialogue:
 

I get this dialogue - then nothing happens. Looking at some old notes from a previous game, I think MO should be able to hear the chopper approaching whilst in the cave. If MO leaves the cave and talks to Fang, there is the following bit of dialogue:

dialogue:
 
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PostSubject: Re: Help with Secret Cave - Helicopter not turning up   Fri 10 Nov 2017 - 22:12

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Hi pchester - thanks for your reply

The dialogue after talking to Fly in the cave is:
dialogue:
 

I get this dialogue - then nothing happens. Looking at some old notes from a previous game, I think MO should be able to hear the chopper approaching whilst in the cave. If MO leaves the cave and talks to Fang, there is the following bit of dialogue:

dialogue:
 

Hmm, strange. I just replayed that section from an old save game and I couldn't reproduce the problem. The helicopter sounds began after the conversation with Fly and as Fang said "...it seems we have guests..." and they landed as usual.

Your game is apparently missing some trigger point for the helicopter spawning, but I don't know what that is. I suggest that you send TecnoBacon (at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) an explanation of the problem and a save game from before reaching the cave, and hopefully he will be able to figure out what is wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Help with Secret Cave - Helicopter not turning up   Fri 10 Nov 2017 - 23:26

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The dialogue after talking to Fly in the cave is:
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Please accept my apologies for the horrendous dialogue here, and in other places like it  No

We simply haven't got to those parts of the game yet to experience them in context...
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PostSubject: Re: Help with Secret Cave - Helicopter not turning up   Sat 11 Nov 2017 - 10:00

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Please accept my apologies for the horrendous dialogue here, and in other places like it  No

We simply haven't got to those parts of the game yet to experience them in context...

Hi Sword. There is no need for you to apologise for this one. We know that you are working through the multitudes of dialogue files as quickly as you can, and this one will get done eventually. You and your team are doing a great job turning Stalkersoup's machine-translated gobbledegook into something that actually makes sense!
scratch  study lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Help with Secret Cave - Helicopter not turning up   Sat 11 Nov 2017 - 12:19

Sorted!

Firstly, I deleted all the saves made after the Autosave that got MO to RT.
Secondly, when bringing Fang to the Cave entrance kept well clear of the Infirmary (noticed yesterday that if MO takes Fang too close to Infirmary, was getting a task triggered (Maples - collect artefact task). These are, as far as I can tell, the major differences in the play. Anyhow, after speaking to Fly & Fang could clearly hear the approaching helicopter and even caught a glimpse of it as leaving the cave. After that, everything went smoothly.

Sword
I think the dialogue here - and most other places is really getting there. But I kind of hope you will leave in such gems as:
"Yes it is necessary to be winded on a marsh. Will throw on a revolving object?"
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